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Hey Canadian Dream:
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
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40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
===========================
40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
Marphad
07-06 11:37 AM
Can you please let us know what gives you the right to call for a change the leadership?
Not that I say we need change, but this is a public organization. Everyone has a right to call for election. There is nothing wrong.
Only issue is, whoever wants to contest has to come out with public profile as mentioned by someone before. There are only few people who are openly public and with known real identity on this forum - thats sad!
I am surprised to see that IV has 450K asset! Where did that number come from?
Not that I say we need change, but this is a public organization. Everyone has a right to call for election. There is nothing wrong.
Only issue is, whoever wants to contest has to come out with public profile as mentioned by someone before. There are only few people who are openly public and with known real identity on this forum - thats sad!
I am surprised to see that IV has 450K asset! Where did that number come from?
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ashutrip
06-20 01:16 PM
Yes, maybe we try for pre-approved labor before July end?
what on earth is that supposed to be?
what on earth is that supposed to be?
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sanam9696
09-14 11:02 AM
Why this fight for EB2 vs EB3..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
arunmohan
09-05 09:00 PM
Arrived to USA on October 1999 at H1B. Started the green card in 2000 under EB2 but due to dot com burst changed the Job. Started again GC under EB3 in 2002 but the attorney and the company took one year to file the paper to USCIS.
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psaxena
12-15 11:29 AM
Please don't think as if the IV guys walk in and talk and there you go.... the change is in effect.
It takes a lot to get the fixes like these.
Moreover , do not donate with the "IF" condition. Just donate and trust IV , everyone is working as hard ,to get the relief in any way possible for the guys in the line.
SO JUST DON'T WAIT AND START DONATING.
Thanks to IV for that ..
But the word "later" seems to be very distant, not just for us. but for the dependents too
I believe this is administrative fix at least pre filing . This is more acheivable
It takes a lot to get the fixes like these.
Moreover , do not donate with the "IF" condition. Just donate and trust IV , everyone is working as hard ,to get the relief in any way possible for the guys in the line.
SO JUST DON'T WAIT AND START DONATING.
Thanks to IV for that ..
But the word "later" seems to be very distant, not just for us. but for the dependents too
I believe this is administrative fix at least pre filing . This is more acheivable
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kannan
07-19 12:09 AM
Paid one time of Payment of $100 through Paypal (confirmation Number: 46W44575JB938171V), more to come.
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07-05 10:45 AM
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knnmbd
04-26 12:57 PM
khnmbd:
Is the SJC convening on 27th to discuss immigration reform? Do you have any more details? The website talks about voting rights?
I just got this off the Immigration-law website"The Chairman Specter called Executive Committee business meeting on April 27, 2006, Thursday, and it is anticipated that the debate on the Judiciary Committee's redrafting of the comprehensive immigration reform bill may take a center stage. Please stay tuned"
Is the SJC convening on 27th to discuss immigration reform? Do you have any more details? The website talks about voting rights?
I just got this off the Immigration-law website"The Chairman Specter called Executive Committee business meeting on April 27, 2006, Thursday, and it is anticipated that the debate on the Judiciary Committee's redrafting of the comprehensive immigration reform bill may take a center stage. Please stay tuned"
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go_guy123
06-11 12:14 PM
All,
When this July bulletin was released, I had given the following points in that thread.
I am seriously considering this. Indian economy is going to go leaps and bounds and I dont want to miss out on that. And wait here in the whims and fancies and their ridiculous illogical visa bulletins by these people. They shouldnt harass and take Indians for a ride. We are paying our taxes and all the fees and what not. Still they prefer illegals over us.
Enough is enough. I have self respect.
Looking at this visa movement for the past year and the current economy, I am just giving up hope to get GC in this country folks.
I am seriously thinking about going back to India. The reasons I was proding over are:
1. Well.. first and foremost, no hope of visa movement in near future.
2. Employer uncertainty. The company is not doing too well.
3. Tough job market and US economy will drag like this for another 2-3 years.
4. If they lay me off, I will have to find another job first. I havent even applied for 485 yet, so no EAD and priority date is Feb 2008
5. Restart GC again which is another excruciating process - moneywise, timewise.
6. Wait again in the line for visa movement
7. No career advancement because cannot jump companies and I am already early 30's. (I am non-IT). Career is stagnant, company doing very small projects.
8. Cannot even think of having kids because job and life here is hanging by a thread.
9. Cannot buy a house in this market. Its not that I dont have money, was thinking, if I lose the job, I wont get much time to sell it off and I will have to incur losses.
10. India is doing well and going to to do well in the future.
Is anyone else thinking on these lines?
Hi waitforevergc
You say that you are in non IT
If you don't mind which area are you in ? Oil/Mining/Finance sector ?.
You can try the Canada option like me. Lately Alberta/Canada closed
the door for IT people, therefore I am wondering if you have other options in Canada.
When this July bulletin was released, I had given the following points in that thread.
I am seriously considering this. Indian economy is going to go leaps and bounds and I dont want to miss out on that. And wait here in the whims and fancies and their ridiculous illogical visa bulletins by these people. They shouldnt harass and take Indians for a ride. We are paying our taxes and all the fees and what not. Still they prefer illegals over us.
Enough is enough. I have self respect.
Looking at this visa movement for the past year and the current economy, I am just giving up hope to get GC in this country folks.
I am seriously thinking about going back to India. The reasons I was proding over are:
1. Well.. first and foremost, no hope of visa movement in near future.
2. Employer uncertainty. The company is not doing too well.
3. Tough job market and US economy will drag like this for another 2-3 years.
4. If they lay me off, I will have to find another job first. I havent even applied for 485 yet, so no EAD and priority date is Feb 2008
5. Restart GC again which is another excruciating process - moneywise, timewise.
6. Wait again in the line for visa movement
7. No career advancement because cannot jump companies and I am already early 30's. (I am non-IT). Career is stagnant, company doing very small projects.
8. Cannot even think of having kids because job and life here is hanging by a thread.
9. Cannot buy a house in this market. Its not that I dont have money, was thinking, if I lose the job, I wont get much time to sell it off and I will have to incur losses.
10. India is doing well and going to to do well in the future.
Is anyone else thinking on these lines?
Hi waitforevergc
You say that you are in non IT
If you don't mind which area are you in ? Oil/Mining/Finance sector ?.
You can try the Canada option like me. Lately Alberta/Canada closed
the door for IT people, therefore I am wondering if you have other options in Canada.
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JazzByTheBay
09-10 08:53 PM
It doesn't hurt to dream... :)
jazz
Guys,
Keep the cool. USCIS is very unpredictable as we all have seen. Get ready to see the dates move forward pretty quickly this year! There are more chances to have increased visa numbers and things can only go UP from here on.
Watch the documentray "The Secret" and put your positive thoughts out there...
jazz
Guys,
Keep the cool. USCIS is very unpredictable as we all have seen. Get ready to see the dates move forward pretty quickly this year! There are more chances to have increased visa numbers and things can only go UP from here on.
Watch the documentray "The Secret" and put your positive thoughts out there...
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paskal
09-30 04:07 PM
USCIS can process recaptured numbers. If 200k numbers are in one year USCIS will plan for 200k numbers in that year.In 2000 they processed more applications after a immigration reform. One way of preventing wastage is plan to process all the applications in 11 months. If any unused numbers can be processed in that one month.
if they give green cards for sucking up?
and by your usual logic, why can't they plan for 140,000 every year? they know in advance don't they? there has been a year in which almost half the green cards were wasted- look it up yourself- the fact remains that they waste every year and it is useless to expect that they will suddenly and consistently do much more than is being asked now. unless...something changes...
just for my info do you find anything at all wrong with the whole process? or are we just misguided fools that you are here to educate?
if they give green cards for sucking up?
and by your usual logic, why can't they plan for 140,000 every year? they know in advance don't they? there has been a year in which almost half the green cards were wasted- look it up yourself- the fact remains that they waste every year and it is useless to expect that they will suddenly and consistently do much more than is being asked now. unless...something changes...
just for my info do you find anything at all wrong with the whole process? or are we just misguided fools that you are here to educate?
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gc_aspirant_prasad
07-05 07:54 PM
Hi Folks-
We (5 People) work for IBM company, SFO, today we went personally to the congress men and we submit the letter which is provided in this forum and after that we called state senator office and we explained about our problem. We faxed and email the letter to the senator office, staff had taken my contact details and they told me that they will inform the solution in 2days.
Thx
Aj
Way to go !!
We (5 People) work for IBM company, SFO, today we went personally to the congress men and we submit the letter which is provided in this forum and after that we called state senator office and we explained about our problem. We faxed and email the letter to the senator office, staff had taken my contact details and they told me that they will inform the solution in 2days.
Thx
Aj
Way to go !!
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philliBECupdate
04-01 11:31 AM
One of a consulting company has received labour approvals from Philli for Feb 2003. I dont have the details now I will post the details on monday its in my office computer. I saw the approval notices 30 days back.
All the labor pettions that the company has applied was approved including the one they applied in Feb 2002. ...Confusing.
All the labor pettions that the company has applied was approved including the one they applied in Feb 2002. ...Confusing.
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pbojja
09-11 04:38 PM
Lets set the delivery date for Ocotober 2nd - Gandhi Jayanthi . I think thats the great day to express our opinion.
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northstar1
07-15 08:49 PM
One way to increase participation is to involve the Indian student associations of the various universities of the area. They are usually pretty well organized and members are usually willing to support such causes. Also support from ISA's from top notch schools goes a long way to show the legal immigrant population as a highly educated bunch.
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vinabath
05-01 02:33 PM
We pay tons of fees to USCIS
The fee we pay is very less compare to what we pay to Attorneys. And USCIS cannot drastically increase fees. And we are stuck. That is the reality.
I think we should cut a check of same amount what we pay to attorneys.
The fee we pay is very less compare to what we pay to Attorneys. And USCIS cannot drastically increase fees. And we are stuck. That is the reality.
I think we should cut a check of same amount what we pay to attorneys.
bajrangbali
06-11 10:41 AM
Guys, I have thrown out my ideas and you can take what suits you from it. As someone mentioned nothing is illegal in it. If you find something, please explain what and why.
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
My conservative estimate was 100K people pulling 50K$ out..that would be 5 billions...if more comes out even better
Fight for legislation?? Does anyone has any hopes on it still? You would get piecemeal concessions here and there..but the Indian EB immigration community as a whole gets nothing good out of it...2 year EAD, 5 yr EAD..just to wipe the tears...come on guys think out of the box.
You argue it is not discrimination but it is law. I say the law is discriminatory and nobody wants to change it (remember the horses discussion instead of EB immigration discussion in senate), do you need any better example than this?
Anyways, I leave it to your own judgement..and I am going ahead with my plans...I am not planning to leave the country anytime soon so I am not yet into the drastic measures I mentioned, but I sure have started the funds transfer to Indian banks, pulling out of mortgage application and moving out of US equities markets. Also, I am reducing the amount of money I pump into US economy which is currently 5K per month to ~3-3.5K per month. If it makes any difference I am making ~400K a yr from my job and other investments...
GCBy3000
07-20 01:46 PM
What the heck you think about USCIS?
When they can process 18K 485 in a day and 60K in a month, then these EADs and APs are miniscule for their efficiency. Ohh god, forgot to mention that too they worked on weekend. So they are ready for weekend work if required. So look at the below calc.
Yes, realistically, the estimated apps are 750K considering 500K primary and 250 dependents. This is can go up if the dependends increase. So assume a million in worst case scenario.
18K 485 a day = 50K EAD / AP a day.
Hence
50K EAD/AP in one day = 50K * 30 = 1500K in a month. So it would only 20 days to get your EAD / AP even if million people apply. Hmm let them not work on weekends now.
0r
60K 485 in one month = 180K EAD / AP in one month
Hence
180K EAD / month = 5 months
Above is worst case scenario with 1million apps. So dont worry, you should be getting your EAD faster now than before.
When they can process 18K 485 in a day and 60K in a month, then these EADs and APs are miniscule for their efficiency. Ohh god, forgot to mention that too they worked on weekend. So they are ready for weekend work if required. So look at the below calc.
Yes, realistically, the estimated apps are 750K considering 500K primary and 250 dependents. This is can go up if the dependends increase. So assume a million in worst case scenario.
18K 485 a day = 50K EAD / AP a day.
Hence
50K EAD/AP in one day = 50K * 30 = 1500K in a month. So it would only 20 days to get your EAD / AP even if million people apply. Hmm let them not work on weekends now.
0r
60K 485 in one month = 180K EAD / AP in one month
Hence
180K EAD / month = 5 months
Above is worst case scenario with 1million apps. So dont worry, you should be getting your EAD faster now than before.
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